This Tourism Week 25 March 2010
Join Pasella for a visit to The Garden Route Game Lodge on YouTube. (And there’s more information about the Lodge below).
Is The Tourism Grading Council Nuts? Does It Want To Lose Its Customer Base? Or Is It Just Opposed To The Green Revolution?
The new criteria for star grading have been posted for comment on the TGCSA’s web site – go here to download - and, once again, it’s only now (a day before submissions are due to close) that I’ve become aware of them.
I’m pretty horrified by what they’re asking – and you will be too. IN fact, you’ll probably think twice about being graded in the future. I know I would
But it isn’t only me: here’s a letter from reader Giles Holland-Ramsay, at Mamagalie Lodge, near Mooinooi, in the Magaliesberg.
“Hi Martin.
“Below is a letter written to the accounting firm who have been tasked with laying out new criteria for graded establishments.
“There has been no contact from TGSA in this regard, or if there has been it has not been received and certainly not followed up on, as one would expect in such a serious issue.
“I forward this to you as I am certain that a lot of the establishments that you deal with have no idea that they have until 26 March to register their opinions! The new criteria can be found on the front page of the TGSA web site.
“I am not able to determine when the criteria will be implemented but I think a concerted effort by the industry will be needed to prevent some fairly ridiculous requirements being thrust upon us.
“I have only commented on what affects me in respect of 4 star self catering, others will have a different take.
“Best Regards, etc…
“Subject: Tourism Grading Council Criteria Changes
“Dear Sir/Madam,
“I write in respect of the new criteria as laid out by TGSA and comment on behalf of our 4 Star self catering Mamagalie Lodge. May I initially point out that insufficient time has been made available to fully make all establishments aware of the change in criteria. Further I have had no formal communication from TGCSA in this regard, so my comments are made “without prejudice” and I reserve the right to take legal opinion if formal communication is not opened between TGCSA and graded establishments and these criteria are implemented ad hoc.
“I further reserve the right to take legal advice in respect of changes made to the existing criteria, particularly where, in our case, self catering units have been constructed to meet existing standards and now require structural modification to meet new criteria. From initial exploration in this regard, it may appear that, where TGCSA has accepted such criteria in previous gradings, they may become liable for the cost of any structural changes required to meet their new standards.
“I am assuming that the TGSA has done some legal groundwork in respect of these new criteria?
“Hereunder some broader comments that are not specific to any section:
“There appears to be no adjustment period laid out to give establishments time to comply with the new requirements, if these are in fact legally enforceable.
“There is no emphasis whatsoever in respect of eco friendliness, in fact the opposite applies, i.e. requirements for air-conditioning in all rooms, heaters etc. This in the midst of an ESCOM meltdown is clearly ridiculous. There appear to be no credits where solar equipment is installed. Several of our units, for example, have been designed to be independent of ESCOM. It is not feasible to run high wattage air conditioners from solar systems, therefore to comply with the new regulations, ESCOM power would be required. This would involve installing cables in excess of 1.5 km or installing unsightly overhead power lines, although these are generally not allowed in sensitive eco systems. All the above are of course subject to ESCOM having the required power available, in rural areas such as ours we have already been advised that no increased power supplies will be made available!
“The new criteria are likely to result in massive costs to establishment owners, the only way to recover these costs would be to directly recover them from the travelling public. I feel that this would result in unaffordable accommodation, resultant downturn, and a contribution to the loss of long term employment. All this while we are trying to recover from the most serious recession in recent times. We should be trying to maintain the status quo by creating good quality affordable accommodation for the SOUTH AFRICAN tourist!
“I would be interested to see whether any of the wider range of travelling public were in fact consulted with respect to the new criteria.
“If it has been that overseas standards have been looked at and borrowed, perhaps you should address the requirements of the local market. For example how many self catering establishments were consulted in terms of occupancy, domicile of their guests, length of stay, etc. How many travelers were surveyed to find out their requirements, expectations and experiences of self catering accommodation.
“From my own experience in the industry over the last 5 years, I have noticed that: 95% of my clients are locals, 4% regional, 1% overseas. Of the local travelers over 40% return 2 or more times, resulting in a occupancy rate of approximately 60%. The average length of stay is 2-3 nights. The guest comments reveal that the affordability, privacy and natural setting is what they value most.
“10a. Down Pillows. I submit that very few guests have a need for down pillows, in fact over the years we have had more requests for fiber pillows due to the number of guests with allergies. To this end we have replaced all the down pillows with fiber and have since then never had a request for down pillows!
“12a. Air-conditioning. The need to conserve energy in SA should be seen as paramount. As the majority of self catering units are frequented by South African guests, there should be a greater level of understanding in this respect. Further in areas where ESCOM supply is limited or unavailable, it is not possible to run air-conditioning of solar panels.
“15a. En suite bathrooms in all rooms. It is not possible to create an en suite bathroom and maintain the minimum floor area where this has not been specified in the original design. Such a stipulation would effectively mean rebuilding the unit.
“15a. Minimum room size, in the case of our 4 stars this would be 30 m2. Again this is not possible where the unit has already been built to a previous plan. There are very few rooms in the country of 6×5 meters, as the standard requirement is generally 4×4 or 5×5, these are spacious in themselves? Again it would generally not be possible to alter existing structures without major, and costly, architectural and structural modifications.
“36a. Dishwashers. While these are very popular in European countries I believe that they are not required in SA, there are generally cleaning staff to do this task – think employment creation – and further they add an additional power requirement as well as a need to modify the kitchen layout where these have not been previously incorporated.
41a. Heaters and air-conditioning in lounge areas, again a fireplace is sufficient for heating and provides for superior ambience, the stuck record of power requirements plays on!
“42a. TV and DSTV, 90% of our guests come to enjoy the peace and quiet. As 2 of our units are set in a nature area, we have declined to put TVs in these units. They operate at an annual occupancy of over 60%, so clearly this is not a requirement from the paying public and I would suggest further research. As there is currently a monopoly on the broadcasting of foreign channels and your criteria specifies DSTV, I would hazard a guess that such enforcement borders on ‘unconstitutional.’
“46a. Washing Machine and tub. Once again is this truly required in a self catering unit? Has anyone bothered to research the average length of stay in self catering units? If there is a washing machine why then have an outside wash tub? These are just wasteful and in 99 cases out of 100 are not required. We offer a complimentary laundry facility for guests that stay for long periods, this facility has been used 3 times in the space of 6 years as most guests simply bring enough clothing for the length of stay. Again, additional power requirements.
“61a. Housekeeping available 18 hours a day? In a self catering unit this is completely ludicrous. There has obviously been a massive short coming in the research carried out. We offer cleaning twice daily as an inclusive cost of stay, in the 5 years we have been open, I can only recall 2 occasions where the staff were asked to come in more than once!
“My personal feelings are that if these criteria are implemented in their current form, it is likely to result in great expenditure to establishments. I would personally not be able to comply with many of the new requirements, particularly in respect of room sizes etc. In such a case my only option would be to seek legal advice or withdraw from the programme. As a past committee member of our local Magalies Meander, I am convinced that a great deal of our members would find a lot of the criteria unaffordable. I am not sure how much revenue the TGSA extracts from registered establishments, however I would envisage a lot of withdrawals.
“I await your comments.
“Kind Regards,
“Giles Holland-Ramsay.”
And after that, all that needs to be said is – download those proposed criteria, and start commenting. Fast.
The Garden Route Game Lodge
Situated just outside Albertinia, this property has been seriously upgraded over the past few years
Only 3½ scenic hours drive from Cape Town, the malaria free Garden Route Game Lodge is home to an abundance of animal and bird life – including the BIG 5.
Visitors can enjoy game viewing in open Land Rovers, luxury accommodation, and memorable dining experiences. The Lodge is also equipped for conferences, functions, and events, and is particularly child-friendly.
When I visited the Lodge last year, I met an interesting chap by the name of Madala – a cheetah who’d ahd his broken leg stitched together by a local orthopaedic surgeon. You’ll find my video of the affair below.
And here’s what Pasella had to say about the Garden Route Game Lodge:
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55 users commented in " Is The Tourism Grading Council Nuts? "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackMy 4 star graded self catering unit with 2 ensuite bedrooms, living room, kitchenette and a spacious balcony area (4 x 8 Metre) have always just received excellent comments from local and overseas visitors as can be seen on the website. With the new criteria for 4 star self catering units I will not get this grading again. I will have to create a whole new unit to comply with the new criteria, which is not possible. My 2 bedrooms are both 25 sq m and there is no way to enlarge them. I provide a laundry service and there is no way washing machines, dryers etc can be fitted into the apartment. In cooler areas like Mossel Bay it is rediculous to have air conditioning in most or any rooms. Double wash basins in bathrooms etc is not always possible. I agree that The Tourism Grading Council are going to loose many members and we will be able to continue without their grading stars. Most of my overseas guests return every year because of the wonderful apartment I offer them, most satisfied with all the facilities and especially with the most affordable rates they pay to enjoy their visit to South Africa. The new criteria are absolutely rediculous and most 4 star establishments will not qualify for this grading.
I, too am appalled and furious. I shall have to refrain from Star Grading as I know many others will too. The costs are too prohibitive for a 6 roomed guesthouse to sustain. Do they want to close us all down?
My guests come back time and again. Just go to Tripadvisor to see the comments for my establishment.
I shall put reasons for not grading on my website if this is what I have to do.
Janine Hobbs
Cotswold Gardens
Saxonwold
Dear Martin,
Thanks for the heads up on TGCSA. This is the response I have sent them about the 4 and 5 star self catering requirements. Did anyone notice the requirements for room service and meals? In self catering?
“Dear TGCSA
I am somewhat taken aback by the fact that this is our FINAL say in the new grading criteria, when this is the first notification I have had about having a say in anything before!
I have been a great supporter of TGCSA for the 7 years we have been in existance and have always proudly said that our standards are the highest in the world. I do not know what international standards we have now been compared with but I have never stayed in a hotel overseas that anywhere near matches our standards. But the standards now have been pushed up so far that I think it is beyond most establishments to conform – and maybe they would rather not assess anymore than down-grade their stars.
I am commenting on 4 and 5 star standards and I have the following comments to make regarding the criteria for SELF CATERING
What does 18 or 24 hour ROOM SERVICE mean? (delivery of meals? For self catering?)
Down pillows should not be standard as most people do not want down or half down, but something allergy free.
I see most beds seem to be required to be EXTRA LENGTH. This may not always be feasible. Why is this now the standard?
Airconditioning in a time we are saving power, should surely only be a requirement at hot/coastal/humid areas of the country. There is great emphasis on recycled toilet paper (yeach it looks awful) paper and ink cartridges, but everyone has to be airconditioned. This is such a contradiction in terms.
3 star spaciousness says 12-19 sq.m. of spare space. This is more than is required for 4 stars
5 star bedroom should be 35sq.m. this is exceptionally large and would be the equivalent of 7 x 5m. There needs to be less rigidity with this as self catering gives guests an entire living space besides their bedroom to spread out in. This has come through, I think, from a 5 star hotel room where there is no lounge, no dining area, no study area. This is not necessary in an apartment, villa, house or even cottage.
New criteria for in-room safes is that they are large enough to fit a 17” laptop inside. This is ridiculous and would mean tearing out old safes and putting in brand new ones. And how many people if they are on holiday, will be carrying laptops?
Face cloths have to be provided TWICE DAILY. This is self catering for heaven’s sake. How often must housekeepers go in to a unit?
Gas stove for emergencies: Does this mean a gas bottle and plate in case of electrical blackouts ? A gas stove could mean a range, a cooker, an oven or a hob.
DSTV with international languages. The costs of provision of services for self catering guests is very high and to add to the already high cost of a full DSTV bouquet by adding languages will be too expensive. And which languages? This can be an optional add-on for guests who wish to subscribe themselves to their German or French or Japanese stations – and should not be standard. What if they are there only for 4 days and want tv in Greek? The shortest period for a foreign language service is a month.
12 hour manned reception with night bell. This could probably only be supplied if there is one building with self catering apartments or a resort of cottages. Many self catering properties are scattered throughout different buildings and managed by an off-site manager. How on earth would a night bell be connected to an on duty manager who does not live on the property? The same applies to a direct telephone line to a manager. This is not feasible. It is difficult enough getting telephone lines at all! Surely just a 24 hour emergency telephone number can be called by the guests.
Why, in a self catering property, would housekeeping have to be on call 24 hours a day? I can understand a manager being on call 24 hours for emergencies. But housekeeping?
Waste bin recycling and management cannot always be assessed if waste is managed by a Home Owners’ Association, if the entire complex is not like a timeshare resort.
Why is there an assessment in self catering for meal services?
There are added facilities which gain numerous points for a restaurant and bar, convenience store, business facilities and conferencing. These may well be available in a purpose built resort or building but will operators who do not have these facilities (i.e. a private owner of a cottage at the seaside) be penalised? Should these facilities not be assessed separately?”
Interestingly, as I was upploading this onto This Tourism Week last night, there was an electrical blackout!
This is the other “tome” I sent to TGCSA yesterday in response to their grading, this time for our guest house in Johannesburg:
“I am writing to you with comments about the new grading criteria for Guest Houses, B&B’s etc. I have not been able to give any feedback on the process as I did not know about it until today – and it seems almost a fait accompli. This is a very diversified sector – but also large – of the accommodation industry in this country, and varies from quite sophisticated guest houses to simple township B&B’s. It costs a fortunate to get started with all the red tape required by the local council and this year, we had to spend some R60,000 building a separate laundry as the City Council suddenly changed their criteria – and my health certificate, issued 4 years ago, was deemed insufficient as my washing machine and tumble dryer were no longer allowed to be in my scullery. We have two houses making up our guest house – one with 4 rooms and one with 3 rooms for use by guests – and I cannot imagine that every B&B can comply with having separate laundry facilities for 3 or 4 guest bedrooms. But, I ask myself, have they all been asked to? Just an example of the challenges facing us.
Rates cannot be too high for guests but costs are enormous – DSTV and television licences for every set, SAMRO fees, keeping maintenance and cleaning levels high, paying staff – let alone the high costs of marketing and advertising to get exposure.
Our Guest House in Johannesburg is AA and TGCSA assessed each year and we have maintained our 4 star standards as we build a regular, faithful and happy clientele. None of it is easy or cheap. Our room occupancy still remains low but we are getting there.
I am a great supporter of having international standards, to assure guests of good quality accommodation. However, I have lots of comments about the new criteria.
I am making comment on the 4 star category, which is where we are and what we ask to be assessed on. My main concern is that the criteria for a guest house seems far too close to the services one would expect at a boutique hotel, hotel or high-end lodge.
1. 18 hour room service. I do not give a room service at all if you mean delivering meals and beverages to the bedrooms. We provide breakfast included in the rate and a 3 course dinner on request, tailor made to the guests’ requirements. I do not employ a chef and full time kitchen staff to provide a room service. How many GH’s and B&B’s do?
2. Electronic safe to house a 17” laptop. I have safes in the bedrooms that adequately house money, wallets, passports and jewellery. This is too much to ask for to have all these replaced.
3. Luggage stand in bedrooms. We have ottomans for guests to unpack their luggage on. You ask for something that is recognisable as a luggage rack. Do I have to get these as well now?
4. Down pillows – I have some down pillows and guests ask for allergy free types of pillows. Down should not be set as the standard.
5. All our beds happen to be extra length but this should not necessarily be the standard requirement as not all rooms may be wide enough to house XL beds.
6. Air-conditioning is not essential in Johannesburg and at a time when we need to save electricity, this is a waste of money and power. We have very effective fans in the bedrooms and, downstairs, the living room opens with folding doors to let in a breeze on hot days. Air-conditioning should not be a standard criteria if the prevailing weather does not make life uncomfortable.
7. Master light switch at bedside table. Please. We could not possibly rewire the entire house to have a master switch put by the beds in each room. There is a light switch at the door (with dimmer) and two good lamps either side of the bed and one on the dressing table. How lazy must 4 and 5 star guests be expected to be?
8. Why is a mirror on the back of a door not acceptable? If it is a full length mirror and it may be the best place to take a full length view of yourself, what can be wrong with that?
9. Temperature control with air-conditioning throughout the living areas. In Johannesburg? With our power problems? Not even necessary. See point 6.
10. What happened to being able to offer dinner on request? Please do not muddle a boutique hotel with a BB or guest house. You now state that orders can be placed for dinner as late as 9pm. And there should be a choice of dinners available. Who can provide a choice of food for 3 people? How many rooms does a place to have to have, and have them all full, to be able to offer this type of service with chefs and kitchen staff and waiters on duty, before going insolvent? We work on a “dinner by arrangement” basis, which guests advise us they require during the morning. We find out if guests have particular dietary requirements, their likes and dislikes, and produce a custom-made 3 course meal made with fresh ingredients and beautifully prepared and presented.
11. Reception staffed 18 hours a day. As the guest house owner, we are on duty all the time, 24/7. But we do not “man” the reception desk. Does this mean yet another person to be employed? 6am til midnight and then a direct phone line or a night bell for use from midnight to 6am. Nobody can get onto the property unless they phone from outside – they cannot walk into reception and hit a bell. And it is highly unlikely in these days of crime, that I will accommodate anyone at that time of night unless they have booked and paid in advance and I am waiting up to welcome them. We are not a hotel with public access where one would expect to find night duty reception staff. Guests needing us as owners only have to call by cell in an emergency.
12. The meals are a big issue and you require the staff to have knowledge of wine. Most of my guest house guests would rather crack a beer! My faithful housekeeper and cook is fabulous but she doesn’t drink a drop. And it would be pretentious to have her be a sommelier.
13. You are to be commended for making owners of B&B’s aware of recycling and having separate bins for paper and glass etc. – but you want air-conditioning!!!!! Same for the refilled ink cartridges and recycled paper. Do you know how much recycled paper costs?
14. You require plasma or Hi Definition flat screen tv’s in all rooms. This can only be a recommendation as they are SO costly at the moment and it is not feasible to throw out perfectly acceptable televisions.
15. You need to relook at your bath requirements as the cost of replacing a bath with cast iron or steel and enamel is exorbitant. B&B’s and Guest Houses, even those serving the higher end of the market at the 4 and 5 star level, will be hard pressed to supply such expensive baths. These one would find in 5 star Game Lodges that charge R7000 per night, not in a humble guest house charging R700 per night.
16. You list the bathroom accessories for 4 & 5 stars, to get the maximum points, to include aftershave, toothbrushes, toothpaste, cologne and toiletry bags. Again, are you talking 5 star game lodge and boutique hotel, or guest house and B&B????
17. Direct dial telephones in all rooms. I repeat myself, are you talking boutique hotel? Who today puts in telephones for 3 or 4 bedrooms and the system to be able to charge guests for their telephone usage? This in a country where even the street sweepers have cell phones.
18. I realise that many country guest houses offer amenities in addition to accommodation for their guests, including spas, steam rooms, professional masseurs, have tennis courts, rec rooms, kiddies clubs and gymnasiums. But these are by far the minority in the industry, I am sure. Does the city guest house or B&B lose the points for not having these things?
I think it is time to get a bit real! I have been to 3 star hotels in Europe that would not get 1 star in South Africa. Let’s assess the Guest House and B&B industry properly as the standards are already high and the grading assessment thorough and good.”
I hope that there is a huge backlash from the industry to stop this madness!
Lynda
Ninety North
It is difficult to comphrend that the TGCSA would shoot themselves in the foot and antagonize members to the extent that they reject grading, therefore I am of the opinion that they are being manipulated by more powerful players in the tourism industry. Since I will not be able to comply with the criteria e.g. a guard at the gate of my 3 room establishment I will lose my 4 star status. Since I’m not prepared to downgrade I will rather choose not to be graded but I am guessing that the next thing we will hear will be “No grading, no business licence”.
Herewith our response to the new requirements and criteria for the grading of establishments: from the view of a “4 star Country House” establishment.
Point 4a: We are only a 6 bedroom establishment that cannot justify or afford the appointment of a security guard at the gate 24/7. We do have a night guard that walks the grounds (30ha) that we see as sufficient. We have access control at the gate via a gate code system that guests receive upon confirming a booking with us. This cost will force us to increase our room rate – not an option.
Video surveillance? For a 6 bedroom Guest House? How does this contribute to the guest’s hospitality experience? To feel that they are spied on? This cost will force us to increase our room rate – not an option.
Point 5a: Increasing the sizes of a bathroom or room that is just a meter or so shy of the required size is totally unacceptable as this would require costly structural changes. You are in general expecting establishments to break down and rebuild certain areas! This may be a requirement for new establishments in the future…
Point 6a: We have already installed a safe in each room to keep our guest’s valuables safe, but a laptop will not fit into it. Will we be FORCED to replace the existing safes? Ridiculous.
Point 7a: To require an armchair or lounge set to match the amount of sleeping positions would over crowd any respectable size room. Remember that there is a chair by the desk already. If there is an extra single bed or sleeper couch for the occasional extra guest, we would have to remove this as it would not be justifiable to add another bulky chair to the room.
Point 10a: Black out curtains; If your décor and colour scheme is all white and beige, it would be nearly impossible to adapt the existing curtains to have a blackout effect. This requirement is then determining and prescribing the colour scheme an establishment has to use in order to comply. This is unacceptable.
Point 12a: We have used a high quality pillow (hollow fiber pillows) over the past 5 years and provide one King size down pillow per guest. We have never had a request for additional down pillows. Down pillows are not washable, looses shape much quicker than a hollow fiber pillow and causes more allergy reactions!
Point 14a: We do agree that an air conditioning unit will add to a guests comfort, but installing 6 or 8 of these units will use excessive electricity we do not have. We are situated in a rural area = Country House – and will not be supplied with extra power by Escom. We are supposed to decrease our power usage – not increase it! We have already replaced our oil heaters with wall mounted panel heaters (even 2 in our larger rooms) that provide sufficient heat. We have extra large, very effective ceiling fans that we feel is more than sufficient. This should not be a requirement for 4 star. This cost will force us to increase our room rate – not an option.
Point 15a: A master switch for the main light beside the bed – this should only be a requirement for 5- star establishments!
Point 16a: Full length mirror on the back of a door not acceptable??? Not everyone enjoys watching themselves move about the room all the time. The layout/design of a certain room may not allow the placement of such a mirror other than inside a cupboard door. If that area is well lit when the door is opened – why would this not be acceptable?
Point 21a: Electric shaver points in each bathroom; We have never had such a request/complaint in 5 years and to make it compulsory for all star levels is laughable. These shavers are going out of fashion and most people are using rechargeable shavers when traveling.
Only steel / cast iron / enamel baths are mentioned as acceptable for 4-star establishments. We cannot be expected to replace perfectly good acrylic baths with superior fittings that would require extensive remodeling of all our bathrooms. Acrylic baths retain heat much better than the other mentioned baths. – Again an energy saver in itself!
Point 57a: 18 Hour receptionist: This will require us to employ an extra person resulting in extra running costs. We are always available to our guests, if not at the reception – then at the bar or dining area as well as on 24 hour standby via cell phone.
Point 60a: We have actually done a survey amongst our own guests if they would prefer table service with a menu for breakfast or an extensive breakfast buffet offering a wide range of cold and warm dishes to choose from. 80 – 90% of our guests indicated that they prefer a buffet breakfast because they have a wider choice as well as determining their quantities of food chosen.
Additional points of concern:
1. The time frame given for submitting our concerns is far too short as this will result in many establishments not having the chance to voice their opinions.
2. How is it possible to leave it up to the assessor to determine which criteria shortfalls he will oversee or not? Especially if one would still receive zero points for criteria’s not met. We will then have no idea where we stand before hand.
3. No mention is made of establishments that can provide back-up power in case of a power outage. There should be points awarded for this ability.
4. If so much emphasis is placed on conserving the environment – why is this not taken into account when it comes to toilet paper? As we are situated on a farm and we are dependent on an organic system for our waste – 2-ply toilet paper has caused many problems for us as it does not degrade as easily as good quality single ply toilet paper.
5. Most of these new criteria’s will cause us to increase our rates and price ourselves right out of the market – a market that has become very competitive in recent years not to mention the recession this country is currently experiencing.
6. In one instance it is mentioned that: “The criteria have been developed for South-Africa and do consider our unique product offerings.” —WE STRONGLY DISAGREE !—- Although surveys has been done abroad, what market research has been done amongst our own citizens to determine local demand?
7. Our drive ways has to be in an excellent condition – but the road leading to our establishment is literally containing more pot-holes than tar. It has been closed and forgotten about because the Gauteng Roads Department “simply does not have the money to fix such an unimportant road”. In the long run, the condition of this road may well cause us to close our business one day.
Conclusion:
We will consider not renewing our grading if these unacceptable criteria’s are enforced in an unacceptable time-frame. We will have no option than to rather choose to be graded by the AA.
It is such a pity that government has spent so much money on offering many establishments their first grading for free in order to increase the amount of graded establishments – only to lose half of these establishments again. We are not even going to discuss the DTI-funding project that has been running for the past 3 years.
We would greatly appreciate your consideration of the mentioned concerns.
Kind Regards,
Gerhard & Ria Van Wyk
Bert & Adriana Pouwels
Griffin’s Estate Country Venue & Guest House
I, too, am appalled at the new criteria which almost appear intended to drive the smaller self catering accommodation business out of the market, at a time when unemployment has suffered from the recession. I will not repeat all that has been competently stated above, but the TGCSA is setting out on a path to drive away many of its paying members. Will I lose business by not having a TGCSA grading from my many repeat customers or from foreign visitors seeking affordable accommodation after the expense of a long haul flight? I don’t think so, and I will not lose any sleep over this issue.
I am glad to see that I was not alone when I reacted to TGCSA’s new criteria, 1st response
was “they can keep their stars”.
We have, de-mountable showers over large corner baths x 6, with shower curtains.
Not even St Gobain, who made the original glass for the Versailles Palace, make glass panels to fit the curve of these baths.
The space is much larger than a normal shower
and the curtain does not touch or cling to the body at all. We’ve checked with our more generously sized guests, and they love the
combination.
I will not go to the expense of removing the baths to put in Glass door showers.
Security Guards, 18hr reception, get real.
Do the “Stars” really affect our Businesses,
I think not.
Please allow me one more comment. It is with a bitter taste that I recall that the TGCSA requested its members to pay the annual inspection fee, BEFORE furnishing its members with the new Grading criteria.
Very good comments from all and we agree that the new criteria are completely off the map for small 4 & 5 star guest houses. 18 / 24 hour reception & room service for a B&B style guest house is a complete oximoron.
Does anyone know how, if at all, guest houses were represented in the development of these new requirements??
We share the views expressed above.
We will no longer be grading with tgsa.
We will investigate the possibility of a class action to recover the costs of obtaining our 4 star rating from tgsa who have now shifted the goalposts into the realms of absurdity.
What do kpmg know about the hospitality industry?I thought they were auditors. They were when I worked for them.
Here our comments to TGCSA WRT the ridiculous criteria review:
General:
We have been graded 4 times in a row as 4 star in the Category “Lodge”. On a yearly basis we invested and improved our facility and therefore increased percentages achieved and lastly qualified for 5 star (95% achievement).
Before going a bit more into detail, our major concern is that we will not be able to be graded as LODGE anymore for the reasons below:
• Minimum of 6 rooms (we have got 5 only)
• All meals (we only serve breakfast and dinner, 95 of our guests are out during day time)
For those reasons alone we will not be categorized as Lodge anymore. The alternative would be the category “Country House”.
After having had a closer look at the criteria for Country Houses we realize that under current circumstances we would fall back to a 2 star grading as we will not even meet some of the “new” minimum requirements for a 3 star grading (details below).
It is absolutely mind blowing that the TGCSA really considers a change in grading criteria with such an effect on their “customers”, away from reality and real customer needs.
Our general feeling is that the draft is very much in favor of large hotels/establishments and does not take the uncountable number of smaller organizations into consideration. We wonder which input from those small B&Bs, Guest Houses, Country Houses and Lodges is reflected in the draft paper!
Furthermore it strongly reflects the possible needs of business travelers and leaves our main clientele, the holiday maker, unattended.
To reach a 3 star grading in the category “Country House” would mean for us already heavy financial efforts (building alterations, additional equipment, additional staff) not even talking about remaining on a 4 star Level which for us seems unachievable. In going thru those financial efforts, we would have to increase our rates, based on our occupancy, by at least 30-40% which then is not affordable for the market segment (middle to upper middle class) we address and not attractive for the top market segment (who prefer the Sabie Sands, Private reserves etc etc where the rates are of minor concern).
We will out price ourselves off the market of the average international traveler as well as local holiday maker. This in return would have a major impact on South Africa’s tourism in general as besides high air fares now accommodation rates will heavily increase. South Africa will not be an affordable destination for the middle class international visitor anymore. We may have to close our operation down.
We are not interested in marketing our Lodge on a 2 or 3 star level to local or international travelers as our target market is specifically interested in 4 and 5 star graded establishments and the financial efforts that we in the past put into our lodge to remain 4 star graded. We furthermore do not want to attract the lower middle class market segment.
Detailed areas of concern (without having had a close look at the new UAC which is another knock out):
1. Minimum requirements
a. All meals
b. Valet service (N/A as the parking is right next to the building in 10 m walking distance to the rooms)
c. Room service (18 hour or even less is not practical or required from our guests)
d. 6 rooms minimum
2. Safety and Security
a. Guards at gates
b. Video surveillance
3. Bedrooms
a. Minimum of 6 rooms
b. Size of rooms
c. Peepholes (we have double French cottage pane)
d. Locks (all locks would have to be changed)
e. Safe to accommodate 17” laptop
f. 50 cm TV screen (would have to change all TV sets)
g. 180 cm cupboards
h. Down pillows
i. General length of beds (some rooms have 180 some 200 cm beds currently)
j. Master switch at bedside
4. Public areas
a. Nappy changing facilities (we do not accept children under the age of 12)
b. Air conditioning (all open to Veranda)
5. Dining facilities
a. Last order for dinner 9.00 pm (extra staff required, shifts)
b. Breakfast served 3 hours (extra staff required, shifts)
6. General services
a. Reception staffed 18 hours per day (extra staff required, shifts)
b. Telephone line in each unit (everyone has cell phones these days)
c. Data line (we offer WIFI)
7. Housekeeping
a. 16 hours availability (extra staff required, totally over the top for small establishments)
With the concerns as mentioned above, should the new criteria be introduced, we will not apply for renewal of our grading.
Best regards,
Klaus Hollander
There is the following press release from the TGCSA:
Tourism grading criteria workshops elicit strong reaction from
the hospitality industry
Should you be interested, let me know and i will forward ot to you.
Klaus
I have taken the time in reading the the TGSA new proposal and then I came to read the comments left behind I am truly sorry to say I could not agree more that the TGSA has lost its marbles, Should they wish to put all these idiotic ideas that a bunch of idiots came up with then sorry I would then just abandon the scheme altogether. My guest are not worried about Tv nor washing tubs nor 18 hour maid services. 86% of my guests arrive unpack and tour the garden route they return late in the evenings and sit and read then they go to sleep up early and out early. They not interested in coming on holiday and watching Tv. 9% are truly arrive sleep leave and then my 5% come into the main rooms t watch Tv. If I had to pay the TGSA there fee and then Pay te Tv licence for each Tv in the rooms and the licences of that and the DSTV in all the rooms then what are my prices going to be like for the tourist coming here to stay all these cost included I would have to look at putting my prices up to over 70% on what it already is.
If the TGSA rate us according to the new criteria then sorry I would rather not be graded and still receive all my guests I need as they not interested in what the TGSA its all about service for them and a comfortable place to sleep..
I will truly boycott this
It would appear that there is a total disregard for the concept of the difference between a Self Catering establishment, Bed and Breakfast, Guest House and Hotel.
There is a reason why Hotels cost twice as much for the same number of stars – simply put, its the staffing. They need 18 hour reception and room service by faceless employees and daily changes of linen. The rest don’t do that and this is where the primary saving is. In addition, Hotels offer is ‘standardized rooms’ and service. What non-hotel accommodation offers is the personal touch that hotels can’t. Its not the concierge that directs you to Table Mountain or the waiter that comes to your table or the receptionist who greets you and comes outside to your car to wave you goodbye (never experienced this!) – its the host or owner. This kind of service is impossible to measure.
Yes for non-hotel there should be minimum standards but the joy of staying in non-hotel accommodation is the different ways that these are applied. What is most important is that the guests are happy. You can stay in a fairly ordinary room with a fantastic view or in the middle of town with grimy streets, but in a super comfortable room and enjoy the experience equally well. Europeans are strongly committed to ‘green’ facilities – that means less use of electricity and water – which is particularly pertinent to South Africa, and many feel that the wastage in hotels is excessive.
In their wisdom (or should I say lack of it), the TGSA has totally ignored the essence of what non-hoteliers are offering and barged on to attempt to force excessive requirements on businesses, many of whom are barely able to meet bond repayments. with one document, the TGSA has effectively ostracized itself from hundreds of loyal customers.
The result – after the world cup – there will suddenly be a huge drop in the number of ‘TGSA (government) accredited’ establishments. They will get AA and GHA and other similar ratings and life will go on as usual. Many won’t even bother that realizing that most visitors care more about what is said on trip adviser and similar sites than stars.
Their issue is less with the size of the room, the air conditioner or if they have free slippers and more with the experience, ambiance, surroundings and personal service.
We agree with all of the other criticisms. Apart from these glaring errors we have suggested the following face saving proposal.
We would rather stay 4 star but under the 3 star proposed parameters which are similar to the existing 4 star. ie All grades moved with an “Elite” class at the top and a “Starter” class at the bottom or something similar.
(Starter-2S-3S-4S-5S-Elite)
This more or less leaves everything as is.
Sunbird Guest House HOWICK KZN
I am not going to be popular, but I do not have a problem with the new grading criteria for Hotel, in fact I think it should be stricter.I for one am tired of going to 3,4 & 5 star establishment who frankly are so far from the criteria that they would be luckly to be a 1 Star.
I have a 3 Star property that has always offered most of the requirements of 4 & 5 Star properties. No I am not in a great Touurism area, in fact outside a rual town.
I am very happy to be an excellent 3 staras that is what my market requires.
Why do so many want to be 4 or 5 star, its not the star rateing that is important its the service we give. Be happy with what you are and is not spend thoes BUCK and join the criteria.
Sorry folk, but thoes are my thoughts.
I have been running my 4* S/C apartments for almost two years and have done everything and more to comply by the standards that were set for me——not only to get the stars, but even more so for myself and my guests. What do I do now? After spending all that money, it is not going to be good enough for you. I can honestly say that my establishment compare favourably to all the places I have been staying in overseas. All my guests from abroad were more than happy—–in their countries they can never get what I offer at my price. Please reconsider—-we need all their money. You are going to stop people from having you grading their establishments at all.
in response to Michael:
Your comment just proofs that TGCSA does not differenciate between Hotels (like yours with 34 rooms) and small establishments like us (5-10 rooms)
That does not necessarily mean that a hotel of 3 star is of better quality than a 3,4 or 5 star rated B&B, Guest Houses, Country Houses, Lodges etc.
Just a different set up and a different market segment adressed. Both have got and should have their place.
I cannot agree more with all the comments posted above. There is now way we can afford, nor dowe have the space, to comply with the new criteria.
We will continue doing what we are good at and have been doing for the past 14 years – being tourism ambassadors for South Africa – and will carry on giving our clients a truly 5 Star experience.
Barry and Mina Thomas
Jambo Guest House
AA Quality Assured Superior Accommodation
WINNER 2000,2001 & 2002 AA Travel Guides Accommodation Awards
Hall of Fame – AA Travel Guides 2003/4/5/6/7 & 8
SA Star Grading – 5 Star Guest House
1 Grove Road,
Green Point, 8005,
Cape Town,
South Africa
Tel. 27 21 4394219
Fax 27 21 4340672
Web site http://www.jambo.co.za
E – mail jamb@iafrica.com
“Guest House” – can be an existing home, a renovated home or a building et. etc.
Ok I should guess most are renovated homes so they were not originally planned with rooms of 30m2 …..
How on earth can TGCSA suggest 4 star – Double/Twin 30m2 – Check with Holiday Inn??????
Why the comparrision between a chain hotel group & a Guest House.
Replacing baths would necessitate a complete re tiling of bathroom!
Guarding – have checked with a few security companies – this service would cost R18000.00 per month – not viable for small establishments.
i AGREE WITH WRITER. THE SITUATION AND REQUIREMENTS ARE RIDICULOUS. IT APPEARS AS A TYPICAL PANIC CRISIS DECISION BY THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOME FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES
The comments are all from 4 star establishments who are bearing the brunt of the TGSA’s ill considered dreams. What would really be interesting is to know how many guest houses comply with the criteria without having to do major renovations and alterations.
As the owner of a 3 star guest house I have read through the criteria with interest and our establishment complies with many 4 star items. We cater for guests from the world over and of course you can’t please everybody but we will go with the flow and drop our star grading, for what it is worth, if their fees and requirements rise out of proportion to the return.
It would be a sad day for the industry if these proposals are accepted as it would mean another grading system would bite the same dust as those old stars and crystals did.
http://www.hotelandrestaurant.co.za/new_site/content/tourism/singlepage.asp?id=429
F Y I
The TGCSA have lost the plot completely! We have been trading for 15 years, were the 200th organisation to be star graded (4 star Country House) and supported the national star grading scheme through its inception till today. Unfortunately unless they wake up and start inclusive discussions with role players (clients) I can see the collapse of this scheme as most existing properties (like ourselves) will simply opt out. Fortunately after 15 years of trading in the industry we are well known by operators & agents and do not need to have the proverbial “barrel” held to our heads.
I suggest we all refrain from renewing when the time comes. We can pull it off if we all stand together!
interesting reading wrt who was invited to workshops.
http://www.fedhasa.co.za/Pages/News_Section_Details.asp?NewsSectionID=3&NewsID=3062
In general we face a fierce competition in the hospitality industry and therefore also the criterias have to be adjusted to reflect the standards state of the art.
However the criterias should reflect the real needs of our customers. I would be happy to see why the new criterias have been choosen.
E.g. the criteria “all guest accommodation has lockable entry doors and secure windows”.
What does “secure windows” mean and why does the criteria focus secure windows only and not the entire savety system of the property e.g. electrical fence, IR systems, ADT …
I think this sample and the comments of the auditorium show that there is some tuning on the criteria needed. Especially with regard to the expectations of our clients.
Finally – some enggement from industry!!! Perhaps not the appropriate forum, but at least some comments on a system that needs to be dynamic and able to change with the times!!!
Relax!! They just screwed the dates up. This was supposed to be released on the 1st April !!!! In case I am not having a nightmare here some comments: I can not believe that we are governed by a body that has lost touch with the real live out here. We are in the middle of a huge international recession. Look at the poor 2010 soccer bookings. This way we will price ourself out of the international market as a “affordable” destination! What a joke! Our infrastructure is falling apart, “international standard” destinations, but the roads leading to it is beyond repair, that is if you do not get mugged on the way. I am speechless.I do not think it is worth getting graded again. Rather spend that money on marketing, thanks for the internet!
Hi – Thanks to Klaus for the link to Hotel & Restaurant site where the new members of the TGCSA Board are named. Seems to me there is a glaring omission in the make up of this group -all hoteliers, ex-hoteliers, ex-hotel school staff, architects and interior designers. Where are the Guest House/B & B /Lodge owner operators? How is this vital part of the industry represented? It has always been a bit of a juggling act to try and fit the hotel chains and big boys in under the same umbrella as the owner operated and run Guest Houses and B & B’s – but not having a single owner/operator or previous owner/operator on the board seems to be a glaring omission. Finally – KPMG? Why a firm of auditors.
Come now chidren stop moaning about the TGCSA lets act together,in the ten years Ive been running not once was I asked if I was star graded and believe you me I`ve been to some star graded establishments that I think the inspector doing the grading was either blind or had a golden hand streched way out in front of him/her.Your star grading means nothing to day so why waste money its the 3rd year now I have not graded and since not been graded I can keep my price down and 70% to 95% full. So don`t grade and see how long the TGCSA lasts. The tail is waging the dog.
Get the real grading badge displayed on your site. “Ungraded and proud of it!”
BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR OVER 25YRS ,THEY ARE CRAZY ,
With the concerns as mentioned above, should the new criteria be introduced, we will not apply for renewal of our grading.
WAKE UP
@ Alan Romburg
What do you mean – “Finally – some enggement from industry”?
A quick search amongst numerous product owners in Mpumalanga found that 1 received the notification in June last year to complete an online questionnaire.
Had the TGCSA felt that “the industry” was not reponding or engaging, why did they not send out further requests? They managed to send us all Christmas greetings, so its not as if the e-mails didnt work.
Why did it take a chance visit to the TGCSA website by a product owner to discover that “the industry” had a week to respond to the proposed new criteria? E-mails advising stakeholders of the proposals were only sent out after this person contacted TGCSA.
Dont blame the industry, when clearly TGCSA and/or its consultants have hardly been keeping us informed of the process!
I could suggest that given some of the ludicrous proposals included in the new criteria; the financial impact that they will have on stakeholders; and the obvious bias towards large hotel chains, the TGCSA really did NOT want the input of “the industry”.
Sorry to bang on about the composition of the new committee but in my search to establish the credentials of the various members I came across a comment on the ‘Whalecottage Blog” – http://wwwwhalecottage.com/blog/tag/south-african-tourism which was posted on Wednesday 9th December 2009 under the heading “New Tourism Grading Council Awards Committee a Surprise Package” (Pages 6 & 7). The blogger -Chris von Ulmenstein – describes each of the members under the heading “……..new members of its Awards Committee, and it contains a most strange collection of persons.” He goes on to give a potted CV for each member and then has this to say:
“Of this collection of committee members, only Romburgh, and to a lesser extent, Bacon, Hazel and Padmanathan, will have a hands-on feel for the accommodation industry, and its quality challenges. WHAT IS GLARINGLY DEFICIENT IS ANY REPRESENTATION OF THE SMALL ACCOMMODATION INDUSTRY, MAKING UP BY FAR THE BULK OF THE GRADED PROPERTIES of the Tourism Grading Council. One wonders what the architects, a travel consultant, and a fashion and interior designers are doing on the Awards Committee, having no experience of the standards set for the hospitality industry, or for the requirements of international travellers in particular”. I came across this while looking for some information on Manteku Private Lodge and Southern Palace, Bizana which was listed as part of one committee member, Mzi Gcanga’s interests/qualifications.
BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR OVER 5YRS ,THEY ARE CRAZY
1st–Thank you for this page to post comments;
We would like to be objective but here is the problem;
1. In Gauteng North to put in “air Conditioning
You Need ;
To check if there is enough power on the gride.
Authority takes 2 months to give answer
To approach the munisipale with an application.
Approval takes anything from 3-6 months.
If you pay your R32000 application fee and there is no power on the gride-you loose fees.
The authorites take another 3-6 months to install the meter box.
And they take another 2-4 months to digg & lay cables
Your -3ph cable costs R15000-R20000costs
Your electrical bill to upgrade to 3ph-R6-10000
Your split unit AirCon R5000 per unit.
Do the sums R32k+20K+10K+6×5000=R92000
And mimimum 18 months waiting.
Then if the power is not sincronized you blow TV’s & Electrical equipment when switching over
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We have done this exercise twice in 4 years.
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By the way you also have to wait for 3ph pre-paid meters– todate 6 months no stock.
My experience stay away from aircon’s.
Or have R100000 ready to upgrade-
Futhermore how are you going to take away the star rating if a 4star establishment needs to upgrade but the authorities handle the power on the above basis.
And take their time with approvals and builing alterations.
All these electrical controls and upgrades applications lay in municipal hands which have come to a stand-still and the time + costs will put you out of business.
So when putting these ratings in place come and let them put the their pension in a guest house plus put their “neck’s on the Block” and see if they can survive $$$$$$
Heaven help us.
Thanks for keeping us up to date. I emailed the Grading Council on 25 March 2010, still no reply nor has there been an email from them requesting us to view their website and comment on the new criteria.
It is a very sad state of affairs that we have to rely on you , a third party, to do their job for them.
I doubt we will be applying to be graded next year. Unfortunately I have paid this year and we have been inspected, and were told that our grading will go through again as a 3 star self-catering but next year I do not think we will be able to afford those changes.
Thanks again Martin for all your news, I really enjoy your news letters.
Janet
Owl & Trout
Belfast.
Dear Ms Kunene,
Thank you for the replies to my emails. In this, my concluding email to you, I wish to make a few final comments:
1. Most of us support the principle of grading and want to be part of a “quality” hospitality industry. We also understand the need for the grading criteria to be revised from time to time. But TGCSA has not been truthful in saying that the industry has been widely consulted. The real problem for TGCSA is that it is now trying to get people to “comment” on something that has already been set, when in fact, people want to have a real say in how issues in the industry are determined upfront. We want to make inputs to shape it, not comments to try and change it after the event. The same applies to your assessors here – they were not asked during the process, they have simply been asked to comment after the event.
2. The hospitality industry is made up of many “levels” and is highly diversified – from large corporate hotel groups in big cities to small guests houses in the countryside – some lodges are situated in the middle of the steamy bushveld and some country houses are situated in the mountains – some self-catering establishments have 5 units and others have 50 units – some city/town hotels cater mainly for the business market while country hotels cater mainly for the leisure market, etc, etc. With this in mind, the new TGCSA criteria do not seem to take cognisance of these differences in terms of the new MINIMUM requirements. Circumstances ARE different (whether you choose to acknowledge this or not) and I don’t think these have been given the necessary consideration in the new MINIMUM requirements. Just to give you a couple of examples: As the owner of a country hotel situated in the cool and quiet mountains of Mpumalanga, we do not require as much security as our counterparts in the Johannesburg CBD. We cannot access more power from Eskom and would need it to put in airconditioners (despite the mild climate that we have and hence no need for airconditioning). Very few of our clients (we are predominantly leisure market) travel with lap tops so we don’t need large safes, while I guess almost 100% of clients at City Lodge or similar in Pretoria CBD do. I am sure you get my point.
3. I fully understand what the new criteria set out to do: To set the highest possible requirements across all markets and products. However, this is setting criteria for the exception and not the rule. Standards should be set for the rule (at an acceptable/reasonable level) and products should be given the opportunity to go further by doing additional things, eg. extra length beds, large in-room safe. Going the extra mile should be considered offering exceptional things for which a product could get extra points/kudos.
4. I remain completely astonished by the fact that the new grading criteria have taken absolutely no cognisance of environmental issues. “Greenness”, “eco-friendliness” and the like are words on the lips of all thinking people anywhere in the world. Interestingly, we often get questionnaires from our overseas tour operators, looking for information regarding our “greenness” not the length of our beds! Furthermore, as a consumer yourself, you know that South Africa faces a power crisis. How can it reasonably be that there are no new grading criteria covering this subject. Think imaginatively and responsibly please! Hopefully you will have the guts to agree here. Please (and I mean it) ask Martinus van Schalkwyk, our minister of tourism, what he thinks about this in light of his nomination for this big climate change job!
5. I am also amazed that no consideration has been given to the financial implications of the new criteria to establishments, especially in light of the poor performance of the industry over the last eighteen months or so. Janet Wills from Porcupine Ridge gives an illuminating example in her letter to you. The hospitality industry is full of small operators who cannot go to their “shareholders” to raise capital. Neither can TEP assist as TEP does not lend money or give it away for free for that matter. TEP assists mainly with marketing and training (you should know that). I suspect that TGCSA has simply chosen to ignore this aspect of the new criteria and the lose/lose situation that is likely to arise. Many establishments will not be able to afford to meet the new criteria and those that try to do so, will be put under financial stress. Businesses could close or downsize or simply exit the programme. Jobs will be lost and the TGCSA could also lose revenue through exits. TGCSA might have to close or downsize………….. the implications are far-reaching……….. for you and for me!
Again, I urge you to reconsider the process. TGCSA has not treated the industry as a meaningful stakeholder, but as some far removed country cousin. If we are not treated fairly, we will not have faith in the process nor the institution of the TGCSA. While grading might be voluntary, the attitude of “take it or leave it” is not in anyone’s interests.
Regards,
Lisa Sheard
I am being graded for the last time this year.
I am operating for the second year now and went to considerable expense in creating an idyllic 4 star establishment.
I would be lucky to achieve 2 star status under the new grading criteria.
My rates do not allow for the massive changes and alterations that this criteria demands.
My suggestion is that the grading criteria is left as it is. What is required, however, is more uniformity amongst the star graders! The whole system is so open to abuse as, as it stands now, the establishments are allowed to choose as to whom they require to do their grading. I feel that this should not be the case.
If the new criteria is left as is, I will not apply to be graded next year, as it is better to have no grading at all, than to drop by 2 stars!
My wife, Rosemary, and I took an enormous financial gamble in setting up our self-catering cottage. This included, but was not limited to, purchasing another home into which to move, as we wished to holiday let our cottage on the beach.
Our over-riding desire was to have the very best self-catering establishment on the lower South Coast of KZN. To this end we did, of course, get star graded.
During the course of this year we have not extracted one cent from the business. We have, instead, poured money into the cottage, in an attempt to upgrade ourselves further.
Now, without at any stage consulting with me, and as someone has pointed out, we know emails are getting to us, as I certainly got the one about the new banking details, I have been blown out of the water. Our room sizes no longer suffice. Now here’s the kicker, even if I had the funds, which I don’t, in terms of the integrated coastal management plan I may not increase the footprint of my house. I may also not build upwards, as my walls are deemed too thin and the foundations not satisfactory for double storey construction.
Perhaps, and I’m just tossing a crazy idea out here, the feedback of our many, many, highly satisfied guests should count for more than the length of a bed, or the size of a room.
I would dearly love to remain in the grading programme. However, given the manner in which this whole matter has been handled, and the fact that I’m powerless to retain my grading whatever I do, I’m afraid I’m going to have to become a “formerly graded establishment.” That is a very sad indictment of the system
With all this furore going on a question has been asked about why this is happening. Could it be the Hotel industry’s attempt to squeeze us out of the quality accommodation market in the long term? Does anyone think that the Minister of Tourism is aware of what the body operating in the name of this government is doing?
I enjoyed reading the comments from Giles so did the same as he did and looked up the UK Grading criteria where we also would be able to retain our 5 star rating !
Maybe there is some truth in the theory that the big hotel chains see us small establishments as a threat and want to squeeze us out ? (see comment from Richard above )
Keep up the good work Martin !
Barry and Mina Thomas
Jambo Guest House
AA Quality Assured Superior Accommodation
WINNER 2000,2001 & 2002 AA Travel Guides Accommodation Awards
Hall of Fame – AA Travel Guides 2003/4/5/6/7 & 8
SA Star Grading – 5 Star Guest House
1 Grove Road,
Green Point, 8005,
Cape Town,
South Africa
Tel. 27 21 4394219
Fax 27 21 4340672
Web site http://www.jambo.co.za
E – mail jamb@iafrica.com
I attended the workshop at Lagoon Beach Hotel in Cape Town on the 26th of March and one of the outcomes was the extention of the deadline for comments until the 27th of April 2010.
Ms. Kunene stated that about 80% of all available rooms in South Africa are graded at this stage. Industry made it very clear, that this figure will be the benchmark for the new grading system.
I urge all people involved to send their comments to: tgcsagradingcriteria@kpmg.co.za
Personally I am very disappointed that the new grading criterias hardly include minimum requirements for sustainable/green tourism. The new grading criterias create a lot of awareness for universal access, but had it harmed to create some awareness for green tourism?
Susanne Faussner
director of Fedhasa Cape
I am curious to know whether TGCSA and/or KPMG have responded to anyone’s submissions yet?
While they have extended the deadline for submissions until 27 April, I note that they have not announced that they will postpone the launch of the new criteria, which is scheduled to occur at Indaba (8-11 May / 10 days after submissions close).
Comments and feedback on the new criteria for grading. From Liz Delmont of Liz at Lancaster 083 229 4223
I am all in favour of responsible and thoughtful regulation and standardization to raise standards and encourage best business practice in any industry. I have always supported the various benchmarking initiatives: these include Portfolio Collection when it first came out in the early 1990s, then the TGCSA, the AA, the NAA and their provincial and regional associations, as well as Greenwood Guides – all of which do visits to check on and maintain the standards of an establishment. This is a very positive and necessary practice.
I have worked from 3 TGCSA documents:
1) TGCSA Grading Criteria Category Comparison
2) Minimum requirements and Grading Criteria for Country Houses, Guest Houses and B&Bs (I have however restricted my comments to Guesthouses and B&BS as I have no experience of Country Lodges)
3) Minimum requirements and Grading Criteria for Country hotels and Lodges
So some concerns in principle
Below are some of the criteria that the TGCSA uses to differentiate between B&BS, Guesthouses and hotels:
B&B
* More informal accommodation with limited service that is provided in a private/family home
* The guest may share the public space with the host
*The owner must live on site
GUESTHOUSE
* May be an existing home or building that has been specifically designed (or renovated) as a residential dwelling to provide overnight accommodation
* Has more than 3 rooms
* The public areas (a minimum of a guest dining room and a guest lounge) are for the exclusive use of the guests; elswhere in the doumentation it says there has to be a reception area
*A host must be available to check guests in or out within 10 minute drive of the property
HOTEL
*Formal accommodation with full or limited service [What does limited service mean, particularly in relation to a a B&B ?]
* Has a minimum of 6 rooms but more likely exceeds 20
* Has a reception area and a dining area (elsewhere indicates must have a reception)
* On-site representative must be contactable 24 hours a day 7 days a week
The differences between these categories are vague and uninformative. As it stands above, what differentiates a 6 room hotel with ‘limited service’ from a 6 room guesthouse? The first task of the grading Council should be to get clarity on the different categories. It lies at the foundation of grading criteria.
2) Then TGCSA makes a further distinction between 1-3 star and 4 & 5 star (presumably both guesthouses and B&Bs? This is not made clear). However the criteria for 4 and 5 star guest houses/B&Bs are exactly the same as for 4 and 5 star hotels. How can this be??
These criteria which are applied to 4 & 5 star B&BS and Geusthouses and to Hotels are:
Provides accommodation 365 days of the year
All meals must be provided for by outlets in the complex
* Has a formal reception area (as does a 1-3 star)
* Offers a dining facility
* Breakfast provided;
* Servicing of rooms 7 days a week
* On-site parking
* Valet service
* extra services eg babysitting
* Concierge, porterage and luggage service
* Room service must be available
* Central Business Centre
* Universal Access Compliance
To apply the same criteria as indicated above to the assessment of hotels and to guesthouses/B&Bs is really problematic, as the two categories (hotels vs guesthouses/B&Bs) are completely different entities. Most hotels operate with way larger infrastructures, way more human and financial resources, have totally different economies of scale, and charge according to a very different price structure .
3) The Universal Access Compliance also addresses the context of a large establishment like a hotel and for this reason is also highly problematic when applied to smaller establishments in suburban contexts which are of a totally different order.
4) So to some detail:
1) It is acknowledged above that a B&B offers limited service. How can this be reconciled with a 4 & 5 star B&B being require to offer 18 hour room service (See page 5 of Criteria for Country Houses, Guest Houses and B&Bs) and the requirement of reception hours from 6 am until 12 midnight? (page 26 of Criteria for Country Houses, Guest Houses and B&Bs ) – certainly not ‘limited’ service? This is clearly a criterion adapted from 4 and 5 star hotels without consideration of the TGCSA’s own acknowledgement that B&Bs offer limited service.
2) As the TGCSA has quite overtly used the same criteria for hotels and Guesthouse/B&B establishments, it is not surprising that further details of the documents demonstrate this:
a. On page 10 of ‘Criteria for Country Houses, Guest Houses and B&Bs’ under Universal Access, it refers to the number of designated parking bays. It refers to establishments with 50-100 parking bays and 100-150 parking bays. Any establishment which has 50 and above parking bays should NOT be categorized as either a B&B or a Guesthouse? It would be have to be zoned as a business, with appropriate rezoning and business rights ie a hotel and could not operate in a residential area.
b. On page 11 of ‘Criteria for Country Houses, Guest Houses and B&Bs’ where under bedroom size for 4 star (30m²) the TGCSA has noted: ‘Check with the Holiday Inn’. Why check with a hotel for guesthouse & B&B requirements?
c. The issue of air-conditioning is certainly another feature which has been taken from hotel requirements. Hotel windows can often not be opened and hotels are often in built up areas where general street and traffic noise encourages guests to keep windows closed. Guesthouses and B&Bs are in the suburbs, in garden settings, and have windows and doors that open. To apply a nation-wide requirement for air-conditioning does not make sense. (and I have not even raised the ‘green’ argument here). I have lived in Johannesburg all my life and have never had the need for an air-conditioner in a bed-room. An overhead fan is more than sufficient. However there are other parts of the country where air-conditioning is crucial.
3) Extremely worrying is the lack of clarity around the Universal Access Compliance. 4&5 Star Guesthouses and B&Bs are required to have Universal Access Compliance. What does this mean? There needs to be much greater clarity on this. On page 6 of ‘Criteria for Country Houses, Guest Houses and B&Bs’, it notes that Universal Access Assessment ‘will in no way affect the standard quality and star grading assessment of the property’. Can the TGCSA explain then, what they mean in the document of Category definitions under minimum requirements for 4 & 5 star guesthouses and B&BS where requirement 15 is ‘Universal Access Compliance’? This seems an internal contradiction?
4) Much of the Universal Access Compliance addresses the needs of guests with various impairments (communication, visual and mobility) set out by TGCSA (and presumably global best practice). Bronze is the lowest level of compliance where ‘all minimum requirements of UA compliance are met’. What are these minimum requirements? These need to be clearly and transparently set out. As the compliance level increases a certain number of UA requirements are added. What does this mean? Firstly it gives no transparent map of which requirements these are and secondly why does the TGCSA measure compliance by a mechanistic system of numbering (ie how many features you have) rather than the quality and appropriateness of the heath and safety measures in a guesthouse or B&B context? Again many of these requirements seem to be applicable to a large multi-storied building with rooms opening onto corridors ie hotels where there is talk of evacuation procedures into a central area rather than smaller establishments with doors opening out directly onto the garden or patio area for example.
5) Finally of great concern is the application of a blanket set of criteria for smaller establishments which by their very nature tend to be more individual and customized. Guesthouses and B&Bs are not for every traveler – many travelers want the anonymity of a hotel, the facility of a public meeting and drinking area, and the guaranteed familiarity and uniformity of a known brand. However there is a space for a different kind of travelling experience. The most frequent comments that guesthouses/B&Bs get is “it’s home away from home’; ‘we love the personal uniqueness of specific establishments’ and ‘we love the privacy and personal service’. I am not arguing for standards to be dropped but rather I worry that the application of blanket criteria does not take account of different contexts. Many of the requirements for a 4 star B&B in the Karoo are different from those for a 4 star B&B in Johannesburg or Soweto or the coast. A Central Business Centre is not a priority on a Karoo farm stopover, but it might be in a city guesthouse. Ditto air-conditioning is way more important than heating in humid coastal Natal. The reverse would apply on the Highveld for example. The criteria for destination guesthouses/B&BS (‘Township’ B&BS are an obvious example) might well be different from rural farm guesthouses or urban guesthouse/B&B catering for the business/international traveler. I really urge the TGCSA not to ‘throw the baby out with the bath water’. In the drive to regulate and standardize the 4 and 5 star Guesthouses and B&Bs, don’t de-value the very thing that gives Guesthouses and B&Bs their particular niche in the travel and tourism market and the hospitality industry: comfortable (often luxurious), personal, flexible and attentive service and surroundings at very competitive prices.
6) Under 4 & 5 star it requires that accommodation is provided all the year round. Why should small businesses not be allowed to close if there is a traditionally quiet period? This criterion smacks of over-regulation which (like many of the other criteria suggested above) prejudices the small business owner. Also how would it be enforced?
7) Finally others in the industry have done extensive work around comparing SA 4 & 5 Star Guesthouse and B&B standards to those of Britain and have well-argued evidence to show how much higher our standards are. So TGCSA’s argument of meeting international standards does not hold water.
I hope that these comments are helpful and that the TGCSA will answer some of the questions raised and will firstly give clarity and thought to the category definitions so that they are more useful, informative and workable. Following on from this I trust that the TGCSA will radically rethink the principle of using the same criteria in the assessment of small owner- run establishments (guesthouses and B&BS) as it does for large corporate hotel chains. Whereas the TGCSA recognizes that a guesthouse ‘is usually an existing home or building that has been specifically designed (or renovated) as a residential dwelling to provide overnight accommodation’ it gives no clarity on what a hotel is and simply says that it is ‘formal accommodation with full or limited service and may have as few as 6 rooms but usually exceeding 20 rooms’ . This is a hopelessly inadequate definition to cover the numerous 100 plus roomed hotels in the corporate national and international stables such as Southern Sun, Sun International, Three Cities, Legacy Hotels, Protea Hotels, Relais and Chateaux, the Radisson, – to name but a few.
Dear KPMG
Thank you for allowing us to comment on the proposed changes to the Tourism Grading Council of South Africa (TGCSA) assessment criteria. We are grateful for the two extensions that have been granted.
By way of background: The Camps Bay Accommodation association is an association of 22 guest houses and B&B’s operating in Camps Bay, and are 4-star in the main, with one 3-star and one 5-star property. We have sat down, and a representative for Guest Houses, Self-Catering and B&B’s each evaluated the Self-Catering, and the Country Houses, Guest Houses, and B&B’s documents. Our feedback is as below:
Country Houses, Guest Houses and B&B
1. General comment 1:
a. It was felt that the criteria for B&B and for Guest Houses are far too similar, and there is little differentiation between these two accommodation types. They are vastly
different in style, operation, quality, and service levels, as well as in rates charged. In general we feel that too many of the new criteria reflect hotel requirements, and take away from our Guest House/B&B establishments the “home away from home” feel, which is what our guests cherish. We have discovered, by comparing the Hotel and Country House, Guest House and B&B criteria, that they are largely identical!
b. We also question the definition of a “B&B”, being defined purely in your documents on the presence of the owners in the home – the “B&B” descriptor has become a generic for the largest part of smaller accommodation. We believe “homestay” to be a more accurate word, to describe accommodation shared with the owners.
2. General comment 2:
It is felt that there is too little differentiation in the criteria between 4 and 5 stars, and often 3 star as well. As prices are set per star category, and guests expect to pay less for lesser star ratings, the proposed criteria from the TGCSA do not reflect the lesser expectations from guests for lesser stars, as they are all too similar.
3. General comment 3:
Some of our members define themselves as “Guest House with limited self-catering”, or a B&B equivalent of this, offering a limited self-catering service inside their guest house/B&B, with breakfast foods provided but not served by the host, or an extra charge is levied when a full breakfast is required. Such establishments do not fit into either the
Country House, Guest House, and B&B, nor in the Self-Catering definitions fully.
4. General comment 4:
We believe that the document with the proposed criteria contains too many contentious issues, which have been widely circulated to the accommodation industry by e-mail, for them to be dealt with in the 10 days after the comment deadline, and presented at Indaba on 8 May, as announced by the media. We believe that the document needs a thorough rework, given the inappropriate “hotel-feel” of the documents.
5 Comments to Minimum Entry Requirements:
a. we are unsure as to how the TGCSA would define “secure” windows
b. what are the “safety and health regulations”?
c. what ‘licence” from a “provincial authority” is expected – we are not aware of any such licences in the Western Cape?
d. whilst we do not discriminate, may one put up a “Right of Admission reserved” sign, and prevent any past guest from returning, for whatever reason?
e. our members (B&B’s in particular) are strongly opposed to the signage requirement, given crime, as well as the potential opposition from neighbours to a Guest House/B&B operating in their midst. Many businesses do not want walk-in business, and therefore do not have signage. Most establishments provide GPS-details, to allow guests to find the establishment. The requirement of illuminated signage is probably contrary to most municipal regulations in residential areas.
6. Comments about Security (4a)
We are strongly opposed to the requirement for security guards and video surveillance, as it would make our international guests fear for their safety, and would not make them feel that the establishment is a “home away from home”. All properties have the necessary security and crime prevention measures in place, and many issue their guests with a panic button, they are linked to an armed response company, and they may already have electric fencing. Added to this is the additional staff cost and capital expenditure required.
7. Comments about Bedroom size (18 + 19a)
a. Our members are up in arms about the size requirements, given that it would be impossible to change room sizes at any stage. We note that the Guest House/B&B size requirement contains a note “Check with a Holiday Inn”, a hotel, and not a small accommodation establishment! Our members have flexible rates, and they charge variable
rates, according to room size, reducing the rate for smaller rooms.
b. We believe that the terrace space which is unique to a bedroom should be added to the space count of that bedroom.
8. Comments about Guest information
Small accommodation establishments usually have a front door, and rooms lead off a passage. Offering fire evacuation information is hotel-like, and superfluous, as there is only one way out – through the front door.
9. Comments about safes:
All guest houses tend to have safes for money, documents, jewellery and cameras. Having to replace them with laptop safes is unnecessary, as not all guests travel with their laptops, especially to the non-city areas. Many guests have iPhones and Blackberrys, which allows them to read their e-mails on their phones. Our international colleagues tell us that not even in the poshest 5-star hotels in London and New York are such safe sizes offered. Establishments usually offer a computer for guests’ use, and therefore the guests do not have bring their laptops along.
10 Comments about Bedroom furniture (7a)
a. Our members do not agree that we should have 2 armchairs or a couch in a bedroom, given the bedroom space constraints defined in the document. Small accommodation establishments all have a lounge, in which the guests can sit.
b. We believe that it should be mandatory to have a TV in the bedroom. We do not see such a specification for Guest Houses and B&B’s
11. Comments about Wardrobes:
a. We believe that 10 hangers are equally fine, and that there should not be a prescription as to the quality. For a one- or two-night stay, the average length for a non-city establishment stay, 14 hangers is too many.
b. Not all wardrobes have drawers, but have shelves instead, and these should be allowed too
12. Comments about Curtaining
Curtains should have “blockout” and not ‘blackout , as proposed.
13. Comments about Bedding (12a)
a. We do not agree with down/half down pillows at all. For years our assessors have been telling us to get unicurl pillows, and down pillows were prohibited by the TGCSA.
Many guests are allergic to down.
b. Most establishments have a spare blanket per bed (i.e. double, queen or king) and NOT per “sleeping position”. This should be allowed.
14. Comments about heating/cooling (14a, 31a)
a. Our members that have installed air-conditioning have no problem with this. However, those that do not, argue that it is a huge expense, that it will use precious and
expensive electricity, and that they provide fans and heaters. They declare this to their guests on booking, and the guests have the choice to reject the establishment for not offering airconditioning.
b. We absolutely do not agree that we should have airconditioners in the lounge and breakfast room – at breakfast time most of our guests enjoy our breakfasts on our terraces
outside, to see the view.
15. Comments about lighting (15a)
If a bedroom has 2 bedside lamps, as prescribed, a master light switch would be superfluous. This is a major expense to add to existing bedrooms.
16. Comments about mirrors (16a)
We believe that it is too prescriptive to specify that a full-length mirror may not be behind the door. Most establishments have their mirrors in the cupboard door or behind the bedroom or bathroom door.
17. Comments about bathrooms (21+25a)
a. The B&B requirements initially (in defining the accommodation establishment types) state that bathrooms can be shared, but in the bathroom section it is specified that it
must be en-suite. This is a contradiction.
b. Baths that are oval or shaped in any shape other than rectangular, cannot have a glass screen to match the unique shape, and therefore require a shower curtain.
c. All establishments have closed-lid bins in the bathrooms, and we feel that these suffice for the sanitary needs of our guests. We should not have to provide special bags for
these, as the bins have bags.
d. We note the requirement of 4 bath towels or 2 bath sheets for 2 persons in the requirements. We believe that 2 bath towels should suffice.
e. We do not agree with changing towels daily, due to the water shortage and electricity costs. Most establishments ask guests to indicate when they want the towels changed. The towel change should be linked to the bedding change, prescribed to be every 3 days.
18. Comments about breakfast/dining (unnumbered + 53a)
a. Depending on how busy the guest house is and its size, a 3 hour breakfast may not be feasible, as the breakfast staff are also the room cleaning staff in small establishments.
b. We are concerned about the reference to ‘dining’ facilities that must be provided by Guest Houses, as this is not a service offered by any of our members.
19. Comments about Reception (57a)/ (64a)
a. As we are a “home away from home”, we do not have a reception desk in most establishments. We all have a check-in area for the paperwork however. Given the requirement for a receptionist, we would not have such an area for the person to sit all day and night
b. Most establishments do not have a “night bell” nor a direct phone link to the host. But they do have an internal intercom bell, and leave the contact details of the host in a central area. This should suffice for contactability.
c. If there is one requirement that would make establishments cancel their grading, it would be the one requiring an 18 hour reception service, from 6h00 – midnight. Whilst the hosts are on call 24 hours a day, they would not see the need, nor be able to afford staff doing 2 shifts per day for Reception duty. Practical issues arise as to how the midnight staff get home without public transport running at that time, nor to get them to work at 6h00. If the staff sleep in, the evening shift person cannot start the next shift 6 hours later, requiring more on-site accommodation for staff, which is contrary to municipal rezoning rules. Last, but not least, we trust our guests, and arrangements are made as to where they can leave their keys if they check out early. Our guests do not require Reception service before 8h00, and after 19h00 in the main. Any extras they need they would ring for.
d. Most establishments use their fax machines as photocopiers. There is a minimal requirement for photocopying from guests. This would make the need for a photocopier superfluous.
Self-Catering
1. Comments about kitchen
The requirements for washing machines, outside washinglines, a double sink, baking trays, braai tongs and an oven/stove in particular are not supported, and regarded as
being unnecessary. The oven/stove in particular is contrary to municipal zoning regulations. A microwave and hot plate stoves are suitable alternatives, in our opinion.
2. Comments about bathrooms
The requirements for a twin-basin, and a bath and shower, for 4-star self-catering bathrooms, seem to be 5-star requirements
3. Comments about security
We are surprised that no security requirements have been specified for Self-Catering establishments – in Camps Bay these are the ones that have been subject to crime in the main
General closing comments
a. Overall, it would be our recommendation that the TGCSA be less prescriptive about the requirements for existing small accommodation establishments, as they cost scarce money, given the continuing recession and poor business we are all doing
b. We have compared the criteria for 4 star hotels with those of 4 star guest houses and B&B’s, and are concerned that with the following exceptions (TV in bedroom, % of rooms must be luxury suites, phone in the room, internet line in each room, restaurant, a lift and room service), they are absolutely identical.
c. The current length of an assessment is about 2 hours. We expect it to double in time, given the many additional criteria, and the fine detail that has to be recorded, therefore meaning that our assessment fees will double, already around R 2 000.
d. Last, but not least: it CAN NOT be in the interest of the TGCSA to lose any establishments, who feel that they cannot afford to make the required changes to meet the criteria, or who do not agree with the new criteria!
Chris von Ulmenstein
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The Tourism Grading Council of South Africa (TGCSA) has expressed its delight at the overwhelming response received from industry with regard to its proposed new grading criteria for accommodation establishments.
Speaking at Indaba yesterday, Chief Quality Assurance Officer, Thembi Kunene, said the recent response from industry had amounted to over 5 000 comments on the new criteria from over 450 individuals and companies.
Kunene said comments received were diverse and provided a good cross-section that the grading council could use to better the proposed criteria.
One of the issues Kunene addressed at the stakeholders’ breakfast was that of universal accessibility (UA). She said it was important to note that, although not an item establishments could be penalised on, the inclusion of UA in the new criteria was part of a directive from the National Department of Tourism (NDT).
“Universal accessibility needs to be taken seriously by the industry now,” she commented. “It is necessary for the country to have proper inventory of what properties comply with these standards.”
The new criteria are currently in the process of being finalised. The TGCSA is currently waiting for a final document of consolidated comment from FEDHASA that will be added to comment already received and compiled by KPMG.
The final criteria are expected to be approved by the TGCSA Awards Committee in June and will be published on the organisation’s website at that time.
Staff and assessor training will occur between July and September and the new criteria will be implemented from October.
For immediate release, 23 July 2010.
TGCSA introduces an Historic Grading Fee Structure
Ms Thembi Kunene, Chief Quality Assurance Officer: “An historic first! This new equitable grading fee structure will largely benefit the thousands of smaller graded establishments.”
In line with international best practice, the Tourism Grading Council of South Africa (TGCSA) is introducing a grading fee structure that takes into consideration the room/unit rate charged by the establishment, the star grading applied for as well as the establishment’s number of rooms/units – a historic first at the TGCSA.
The room rate refers to the average published daily accommodation rate inclusive of VAT, applicable to the largest category of rooms/unit available for the year of assessment excluding any special or promotional offers subject to audit at the discretion of the TGCSA. Also included in the grading fee is the fixed rate per number of stars the establishment applies for.
This new equitable fee structure will become effective from 1 October 2010, when the TGCSA launches the recently reviewed Grading Criteria, following an extensive consultation process with industry.
Establishments will, when filling in the on-line application form, input their room rate charged, the number of rooms their establishment has as well as the star grading applied for and the new IT System, also being launched on the 1 October 2010, will automatically calculate the rate payable which will be in line with the attached table. /za_members/6353/ftp/Attachments/New Grading Fees Table – 21 July 2010.pdf
The net average increase for all establishments will be 13% from the previous year. However, the establishments operating on the lower end of the market (in terms of Star Grading as well as Room Rate charged) will have a lower percentage increase.
In addition, for all NEW properties joining the grading system, a Joining Fee of R500 is payable. However, as an incentive for all NEW properties to join the TGCSA Quality Grading System for this year, a R300.00 discount on their Joining Fee is being granted. This is provided they apply for grading before 31 December 2010.
This therefore means that for an establishment to join the Grading Scheme between 1 October 2010 and 31 December 2010, they only have to pay a Joining Fee of R200.00 over and above the Grading Fee which will take into account their Star Grading (number of stars) applied for, the size of their establishment (number of rooms) as well as the room rate charged.
The Joining and Grading Fees for 3 Categories (Meeting, Exhibitions, and Special Events (MESE), Caravan & Camping, Backpacker & Hostelling) remain unchanged from the previous year as per the attached table./za_members/6353/ftp/Attachments/New Grading Fees Table – 21 July 2010.pdf. This is due to the Grading Criteria for these 3 categories not yet being reviewed through an industry consultation process. The TGCSA plans to conclude this consultation process as well as a full review of the Grading Criteria before 31 March 2011.
According to Ms Thembi Kunene, ’’although the TGCSA will receive a 13% increased revenue stream from 1 October 2010, this increase comes halfway into the financial year. This means that my team and I will have to manage our costs down for the next six months since this delay was unavoidable as we needed to ensure a wider and more comprehensive consultation process on the reviewed Grading Criteria’’
She concludes:’’Despite this challenge, we are all very excited to be part of this transformation and history-in-the-making. We hope both the accommodation establishments as well as our domestic and international tourists will note the marked improvement and provide us with the appropriate feedback on their next visit.’’
Ends
I think the CEO is in need of serious help!
Tourism Grading Council of SA:
Please have a look at the new grading criteria which have now been revised and published on the homepage of the website of the TGCSA: http://www.tourismgrading.co.za
Just found the link to their new grading application form – designed to drive customers away rather than attract…
follow the link
http://www.tourismgrading.co.za/default.aspx?pid=34&stepid=2713&oid=73
I do not know if I am being very “blonde” but I can only see huge increases in costs of an assessment and I do not understand how the rate per star can be built in. And TGCSA now want to gain more money according to the rate being charged to the guest. What about occupancy levels? An establishment may have high rates and low occupancy. How can they be penalised? An assessment is an assessment in time and effort and costs of such do not increase according to the rates being charged and the star standard. The madness continues.
What a CIRCUS the so called “newly grading system” became .The auditors haven’t a slight idea of how any grading system works .My establishment in Kimberley was graded for 8 years and every year I receive a well deserved 3 star grading with satisfied customers whose needs is adressed over the past 15 years of my establishment .The auditors/assessors is supposed to have auditing and or an assesment qualifications and could not produce such .With any audit protocol the audit criteria is supposed to be send 6 weeks ahead so that the establishments could well in advance prepared for the assessment . The assessors definately not used the same criteria for every establishment.Not half of the requirements was verified and she the assesors decide to downgrate from a 3 to a 2 star. I will definately not register and asked for any grading in the future unless this unqualified one track minded auditors /assessors/clowns is get rid of out of the tourism grading board This is South Africa not Europe. Board “This is rural not metro area “.I will go ahead with my establishment without any grading as long as I satisfied my customers needs and not that of a Tourism Board.It is of great concern that only 1000 of the 7000 establishment in is graded .Where lies the problem? This grading became another govermental money making sceam ,milking now the “newly cows” the Establishments in South Africa
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